Key Pair https://www.keypair.fm Two developers exploring Bitcoin, Lightning, and Nostr to build user-empowering apps. https://www.keypair.fm Key Pair https://www.keypair.fm/poster.png en-us hello@keypair.fm (Robert) peter@marcano.io (Pete) Sun, 12 Apr 2026 12:00:00 +0000 Technology 60 true Peter Marcano and Robert peter@marcano.io https://media.keypair.fm/feed.xml https://media.keypair.fm/feed KP020: "Big tech did not kill private life", with Tiffany Jenkins. 27 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/27 We speak with Tiffany Jenkins about her latest book Strangers and Intimates.
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KP020: "Big tech did not kill private life", with Tiffany Jenkins.

- Tiffany Jenkins' website: https://tiffanyjenkinsinfo.com
- Tiffany on Twitter: https://x.com/tiffanyjenkins
- Tiffany's latest book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/207579898-strangers-and-intimates
- The Right to Oblivion by Lowry Pressly: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/209349509-the-right-to-oblivion
- Privacy is not a ‘natural’ right — it’s an invention: https://blockworks.com/news/privacy-right-invention

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]]> Sun, 12 Apr 2026 12:00:00 +0000 true 3810 We speak with Tiffany Jenkins about her latest book Strangers and Intimates. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/27 KP019: A cryptographer's wet dream, with Max Hillebrand. 26 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/26 We speak to Max Hillebrand about Privacy, White Noise and the Nostr and Bitcoin ecosystem.
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KP019: A cryptographer's wet dream. Speaking with Max Hillebrand.

- Praxeology of Privacy: https://towardsliberty.com/pop
- Nostr Compass: https://nostrcompass.org/

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]]> Thu, 12 Feb 2026 15:46:44 +0000 true 7180 We speak to Max Hillebrand about Privacy, White Noise and the Nostr and Bitcoin ecosystem. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/26 KP018: Where we Bitchat 25 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/25 We talk about Pete's new role at Opennode, vibe coding, DHH, keyboards, bitchat and more.
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KP018: Where we Bitchat

- https://opennode.com/
- https://mkstack.xyz/
- https://block.github.io/goose/
- https://wisprflow.ai
- https://lexfridman.com/dhh-david-heinemeier-hansson
- https://www.lofree.co/products/lofree-flow-the-smoothest-mechanical-keyboard
- https://nuphy.com/products/air60-v2
- https://bitchat.free/

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]]> Tue, 02 Dec 2025 12:00:00 +0000 true 3620 We talk about Pete's new role at Opennode, vibe coding, DHH, keyboards, bitchat and more. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/25 KP017: Interview with Vinney Cavallo 24 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/24 Vinney talks to us about Catallax, Web of Trust, Whitepaper Books and more.
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KP017: Interview with Vinney Cavallo

- Vinney on Nostr: https://njump.me/npub19ma2w9dmk3kat0nt0k5dwuqzvmg3va9ezwup0zkakhpwv0vcwvcsg8axkl
- Vinney's homepage: https://vinneycavallo.com/
- Attestr: https://attestr.app/
- Catallax: https://catallax.network/
- Whitepaper Books: https://whitepaperbooks.com
- Urbit: https://urbit.org/
- On Plunder: https://gist.github.com/wicrum-wicrun/b308b298721ccbe0de9c6c73a6ee4242
- OPFN: https://opfn.gitbook.io
- David Strayhorn (straycat)
  - https://njump.me/npub1u5njm6g5h5cpw4wy8xugu62e5s7f6fnysv0sj0z3a8rengt2zqhsxrldq3
  - David on Plebchain Radio: https://fountain.fm/episode/zztOIngx6H7odhl3dFrT
- Graperank: https://github.com/Pretty-Good-Freedom-Tech/graperank-nodejs
- Opennode: https://opennode.com/
- Web of Trust Hackathon: https://nosfabrica.com/wotathon/

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]]> Wed, 12 Nov 2025 12:00:00 +0000 true 4367 Vinney talks to us about Catallax, Web of Trust, Whitepaper Books and more. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/24 BoN005: NIP07 - Web browser extension 23 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/23 Pete and Rob discuss NIP07
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KP021: NIP-07
https://nostr-nips.com/nip-07

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]]> Mon, 22 Sep 2025 12:00:00 +0000 true 518 Pete and Rob discuss NIP07 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/23 BoN004: NIP06 - Basic key derivation 22 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/22 Pete and Rob discuss NIP06
https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/06.md
Basic key derivation from mnemonic seed phrase
]]> Tue, 09 Sep 2025 12:00:00 +0000 true 632 Pete and Rob discuss NIP06 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/22 KP016: Bookmarking on Nostr 21 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/21 Rob vibe coded a bookmarking app on Nostr and talks to Pete about what he has learned.
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KP016: Building a Nostr Bookmarking app

- Rob's MVP Nostr Bookmarking app can be found at https://pinstr.co
- https://pinboard.in created by Maciej Cegłowski
- NIP-B0 (Web Bookmarking): https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/B0.md
- Check out https://yumyu.me/
- Fiatjaf wants a bookmarking app on Nostr: https://nostrudel.ninja/n/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqwlsccluhy6xxsr6l9a9uhhxf75g85g8a709tprjcn4e42h053vaqyd8wumn8ghj7mr0vd4kymmc9enxjct5dfskvtnrdakj7qgswaehxw309ahx7um5wghx6mmd9uqzpvqqy0zfdrg9m30c7qrjpd0k4uqqpydlfgshg2fp4g232ezk6kz8uxz88n
- Mica's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Micalinscheidvibecodingagency
- Codename Goose: https://github.com/block/goose
- Ollama: https://ollama.com/
- Tidewave.ai: https://tidewave.ai/
- [Harper Lee post](https://harper.blog/2025/02/16/my-llm-codegen-workflow-atm/)
- NIP-44 (encryption): https://nips.nostr.com/44


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]]> Thu, 03 Jul 2025 12:00:00 +0000 true 3168 Rob vibe coded a bookmarking app on Nostr and talks to Pete about what he has learned. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/21 BoN002: NIP03 - OpenTimestamps 19 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/19 Pete and Rob talk about OpenTimestamps Attestations for Events
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]]> Sun, 08 Jun 2025 12:00:00 +0000 true 466 Pete and Rob talk about OpenTimestamps Attestations for Events https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/19 BoN003: NIP04 - Encrypted Direct Message 20 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/20 Pete and Rob discuss deprecated NIP-04 for Encrypted Direct Messages
Shownotes coming soon.
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]]> Sun, 08 Jun 2025 12:00:00 +0000 true 318 Pete and Rob discuss deprecated NIP-04 for Encrypted Direct Messages https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/20 BoN001: NIP02 - Contact Lists 18 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/18 Pete and Rob dig deep into use cases, opportunities, and drawbacks about the first non-mandatory Nostr NIP, the beloved contact list.
Show notes coming soon.
]]> Tue, 13 May 2025 12:01:00 +0000 true 1001 Pete and Rob dig deep into use cases, opportunities, and drawbacks about the first non-mandatory Nostr NIP, the beloved contact list. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/18 BoN000: Introducing Bits on NIPs 17 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/17 Pete and Rob have an insane idea to talk about NIPs one at a time. Who knows where this goes.
Show notes coming soon.
]]> Tue, 13 May 2025 12:00:00 +0000 true 626 Pete and Rob have an insane idea to talk about NIPs one at a time. Who knows where this goes. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/17 KP015: Easter Eggs 16 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/16 Pete and Rob catch up, check out some Bitcoin medium of exchange adoption, vibe-code projects, and Miniscript Vaults
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KP015: Easter Eggs

Resources mentioned:
- Miniscript: https://bitcoin.sipa.be/miniscript/
- Liana Wallet: https://www.wizardsardine.com/liana/
- AnchorWatch: https://www.anchorwatch.com/
- Soak Quest: https://iris.to/npub1pdm6f4kvr7sezj2yljz7xp2u0yxhnzxe3htzv64s3n0p9jc3lkmsjmmjzk
- Odell at MIT Bitcoin Expo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO1QTCLrbB8
- Ten31 Investment Thesis: https://ten31.vc/insights/tam
- Vibeline: https://github.com/dergigi/vibeline
- Bitcoin Treasury from Block: https://github.com/block/bitcoin-treasury
- Bitcoin Treasury Announcement: https://block.xyz/inside/block-releases-open-source-tools-for-bitcoin-treasury-management
- Codename Goose!: https://block.github.io/goose/

Hosts & Guests:
- Pete: Nostr / Github
- Rob: Nostr / Github

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]]> Tue, 15 Apr 2025 12:00:00 +0000 true 3584 Pete and Rob catch up, check out some Bitcoin medium of exchange adoption, vibe-code projects, and Miniscript Vaults https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/16 KP014: We're Vibe-coders now 15 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/15 Rob & Pete talk about using AI for their coding workflow.
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KP014: We're Vibe-coders now

Resources mentioned:

- https://harper.blog/2025/02/16/my-llm-codegen-workflow-atm/
- https://dvmcp.fun/
- https://stratechery.com/aggregation-theory/
- https://kk.org/thetechnium/1000-true-fans/

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]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2025 12:00:00 +0000 true 3900 Rob & Pete talk about using AI for their coding workflow. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/15 KP013: DVMCP, Tollgate, Git stuff, and the Bleeding Edge with Arjen & Gzuuus 14 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/14 Very special guests Arjen & Gzuuus join the show to bring us up to speed on DVMCP, Tollgate, and the bleeding edge of freedom tech.
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KP013: DVMCP, Tollgate, Git stuff, and the Bleeding Edge with Arjen & Gzuuus
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Hosts & Guests:
- Pete: Nostr / Github
- Rob: Nostr / Github
- Special Guest Arjen: Nostr / Github
- Special Guest Gzuuus: Nostr / Github

Where to follow the pod:
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]]> Tue, 18 Mar 2025 08:00:00 +0000 true 6291 Very special guests Arjen & Gzuuus join the show to bring us up to speed on DVMCP, Tollgate, and the bleeding edge of freedom tech. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/14 KP012: Building Alby with René Aaron 13 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/13 René Aaron joins the show to teach Pete and Rob more about Lightning, Nostr, and the wonderful products Alby has to offer.
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KP012: Building Alby with René Aaron
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Hosts & Guests:
- Pete: Nostr
- Rob: Nostr
- Special Guest René Aaron: Github / Nostr / X

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]]> Tue, 04 Mar 2025 12:00:00 +0000 true 3638 René Aaron joins the show to teach Pete and Rob more about Lightning, Nostr, and the wonderful products Alby has to offer. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/13 KP011: Decentralized App Stores & Chess Transmitted by Relays 12 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/12 Pete discovers the joys of GrapheneOS and Zap Store — the nostr-based decentralized app store. Rob also explores "other stuff" on Nostr, and gets excited about playing Chess.
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KP011: New Year, New Challenges

Links mentioned:
- Amber: Nostr Event signer: https://github.com/greenart7c3/Amber
- Aqua Wallet: https://aquawallet.io/
- Chess over Nostr with Jester: https://jesterui.github.io
- Read Write Own: https://readwriteown.com/
- Email us: hello@keypair.fm


]]> Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:00:00 +0000 true 3222 Pete discovers the joys of GrapheneOS and Zap Store — the nostr-based decentralized app store. Rob also explores "other stuff" on Nostr, and gets excited about playing Chess. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/12 KP010: New Year, New Challenges 11 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/11 Pete and Rob discuss what they are up to at the beginning of 2025.
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KP010: New Year, New Challenges

- Chaincode BOSS program: https://learning.chaincode.com/
- Omakub: https://omakub.org/
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]]> Tue, 04 Feb 2025 12:00:00 +0000 true 3016 Pete and Rob discuss what they are up to at the beginning of 2025. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/11 KP009: Future stuff and Happy New Year 10 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/10 Pete and Rob discuss what happened in 2024 and what's yet to come.
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KP009: Future stuff and Happy New Year

- [Google announces Willow](https://blog.google/technology/research/google-willow-quantum-chip/)
- [Tweet from Sabine Hossfelder on the Google's Quantum announcement](https://x.com/skdh/status/1866352680899104960)
- [Shor's algorithm](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shor's_algorithm)
- [DHH - The Premise Trap](https://world.hey.com/dhh/the-premise-trap-924b8cd9)
- [Naval Ravikant on the future of work](https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/jobs/mid-career/bosses-to-become-extinct-everyone-will-work-for-themselves-predicts-naval-ravikant-an-early-investor-in-twitter-uber/articleshow/112241438.cms)
- [The Bitcoin power law](https://charts.bitbo.io/long-term-power-law/)
- [Crypto Academy](https://www.thecryptoacademy.io/)

Fountain: [https://fountain.fm/show/QGEMm7FxXz5a4553Jhqr](https://fountain.fm/show/QGEMm7FxXz5a4553Jhqr)
iTunes: [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/key-pair/id1779782011](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/key-pair/id1779782011)

]]> Tue, 24 Dec 2024 12:00:00 +0000 true 3834 Pete and Rob discuss what happened in 2024 and what's yet to come. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/10 KP008: For the love of Rails 9 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/9 Pete and Rob talk about using Ruby on Rails for creating web applications.
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KP008: For the love of Rails

- [Ruby on Rails](https://rubyonrails.org/)
- [Nostr Ruby](https://www.nostr-ruby.com/)
- [Wilson Silva](https://github.com/wilsonsilva)

Fountain: [https://fountain.fm/show/QGEMm7FxXz5a4553Jhqr](https://fountain.fm/show/QGEMm7FxXz5a4553Jhqr)
iTunes: [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/key-pair/id1779782011](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/key-pair/id1779782011)

]]> Tue, 17 Dec 2024 12:00:00 +0000 true 2898 Pete and Rob talk about using Ruby on Rails for creating web applications. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/9 KP007: Exploring Ecash 8 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/8 Pete and Rob learn about Ecash and discuss what they found out.
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KP007: Learning about Ecash

- [Cashu](https://cashu.space/)
- [Calle on Nostr](https://njump.me/npub12rv5lskctqxxs2c8rf2zlzc7xx3qpvzs3w4etgemauy9thegr43sf485vg)
- [Fedimint](https://fedimint.org/)
- [Boardwalk Cash](https://boardwalkcash.com)
- [Note from Gandlaf](https://damus.io/nevent1qqstgch4pzs5rk4klaqh296vs0vtrnnql3596t7zgt9klc94aw2k2jcpr9mhxue69uhhqatjv9mxjerp9ehx7um5wghxcctwvsqs7amnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wd4hk6qg5waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t0qyt8wumn8ghj7ct5d3shxtnwdaehgu3wd3skueqxg3sm5)
- [Chaumian eCash in Bitcoin - Cashu & Fedimint - Adam Gibson aka waxwing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwMzNE1D3so)

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]]> Tue, 10 Dec 2024 12:00:00 +0000 true 2971 Pete and Rob learn about Ecash and discuss what they found out. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/8 KP006: Nostr Proxies and Privacy with Arjen 7 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/7 Arjen explains how the Epoxy Proxy works and how it helps protect your privacy on Nostr.
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KP006: Nostr Proxies and Privacy with Arjen

Arjen on Nostr: [https://njump.me/npub1hw6amg8p24ne08c9gdq8hhpqx0t0pwanpae9z25crn7m9uy7yarse465gr](https://njump.me/npub1hw6amg8p24ne08c9gdq8hhpqx0t0pwanpae9z25crn7m9uy7yarse465gr)
Epoxy explained: [https://njump.me/note1wgkww5x6t8r65zntx4svjdxdva9a3y70645mfxd6rllsjvqcy2wqxg4j9n](https://njump.me/note1wgkww5x6t8r65zntx4svjdxdva9a3y70645mfxd6rllsjvqcy2wqxg4j9n)
TollGate: [https://github.com/OpenTollGate/TollGate](https://github.com/OpenTollGate/TollGate)

Fountain: [https://fountain.fm/show/QGEMm7FxXz5a4553Jhqr](https://fountain.fm/show/QGEMm7FxXz5a4553Jhqr)
iTunes: [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/key-pair/id1779782011](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/key-pair/id1779782011)
]]> Tue, 03 Dec 2024 12:00:00 +0000 true 2391 Arjen explains how the Epoxy Proxy works and how it helps protect your privacy on Nostr. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/7 KP005: Dispelling Nostr FUD 6 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/6 Pete and Rob go through Hellmoney's Nostr criticism point by point.
Hell Money episode with Erin and Casey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lYpKhAkJG4&t=1440s
Carlota Perez' adoption curve: https://avc.com/2015/02/the-carlota-perez-framework/
A Vision for a Value-Enabled Web: https://dergigi.com/2022/12/18/a-vision-for-a-value-enabled-web/
value4value: https://value4value.info/
]]> Tue, 26 Nov 2024 12:00:00 +0000 true 3912 Pete and Rob go through Hellmoney's Nostr criticism point by point. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/6 KP004: Building Unstoppable Marketplaces w/ Calvadev 5 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/5 Rob and Pete chat with Calvadev about using Nostr and Ecash to build an unstoppable marketplace.
Rob and Pete chat with Calvadev about using Nostr and Ecash to build an unstoppable marketplace.

  • https://shopstr.store
  • https://sovereignengineering.io/
]]> Wed, 13 Nov 2024 12:00:00 +0000 true 4016 Rob and Pete chat with Calvadev about using Nostr and Ecash to build an unstoppable marketplace. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/5 KP003: Nostr, the Big Picture 4 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/4 Pete and Rob reflect on the Internet's history, and how Nostr delivers on web3's promises
Pete and Rob reflect on the Internet's history, and how Nostr delivers on web3's promises
]]> Tue, 05 Nov 2024 10:00:00 +0000 true 5047 Pete and Rob reflect on the Internet's history, and how Nostr delivers on web3's promises https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/4 KP002: Domain name shame 3 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/3 Pete and Rob share domain names they've purchased then did nothing with.
Pete and Rob share domain names they've purchased then did nothing with.
]]> Tue, 29 Oct 2024 10:00:00 +0000 true 4012 Pete and Rob share domain names they've purchased then did nothing with. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/3 KP001: Bitcoin conferences & Full-stack podcast hosting 2 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/2 Pete and Rob discuss attending bitcoin conferences and building a podcast backend from scratch.
Pete and Rob discuss attending bitcoin conferences and building a podcast backend from scratch.
]]> Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:00:00 +0000 true 4042 Pete and Rob discuss attending bitcoin conferences and building a podcast backend from scratch. https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/2 KP000: Real Programmers Start at 0 1 https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/1 Pete and Rob rant about what they want this podcast to be about
Pete and Rob rant about what they want this podcast to be about.
]]> Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:00:00 +0000 true 1255 Pete and Rob rant about what they want this podcast to be about https://media.keypair.fm/episodes/1